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Post by molukai on Sept 14, 2006 10:07:32 GMT -5
Hail all! Right now we are still going through possible venues for a new ventrilo server to host the chapter. One member offered to allow us to use his friend's vent server (ip: dallas2.nationvoice.com port:3796 no password). For now you can all use that, but he has little control over the vent server and as such I feel that it would be better to raise funds for another dedicated Divinity vent server. If any of you are willing to contribute, let me know and I'll set up a paypal account.
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Post by braxo on Sept 14, 2006 18:34:52 GMT -5
I see noone has added the vent server info to the guild information or message of the day so I've taken the liberty of adding it to the guild information window. Divinity members still have to rifle through some windows to see the information but I didn't want to put it on the message of the day if the server belongs to a friend and not us. Just let me know if you want to put it on the message of the day though and I will.
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Post by merilyon on Sept 16, 2006 14:19:31 GMT -5
What does it take to run a server, I have some extra computers that I could probably hook up to run one.
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Post by braxo on Sept 16, 2006 15:42:30 GMT -5
Hardware is not the problem, the main factor in hosting a ventilo server is your upload speed. If you're using a standard broadband connection then you likely don't have the upload speed to host a server for more than 5 people or so. Which is why in most cases we have to pay for a server, bandwidth speed is costly.
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Post by merilyon on Sept 16, 2006 22:39:17 GMT -5
ooh I see, well then I am willing to contribute a little to the cause, has anyone computed the monthly cost of a dedicated suver?
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Post by molukai on Sept 18, 2006 14:20:32 GMT -5
Varies, but it can be pretty cheap or be very expensive, depending on connections
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Post by merilyon on Sept 21, 2006 1:05:40 GMT -5
Hardware is not the problem, the main factor in hosting a ventilo server is your upload speed. If you're using a standard broadband connection then you likely don't have the upload speed to host a server for more than 5 people or so. Which is why in most cases we have to pay for a server, bandwidth speed is costly. standard broadband, what do you mean by that, i deal with speeds not 'vauge' names, not trying to be a snob or anything but do you know the demands that it puts on the system, I tryed looking that kind of information up but am not having much luck, perhaps somone who has more experiance could tell me. i get, on average, over 100mbps, i'm not sure what our allowed bandwidth is, but numbers of demand could help me, i'd much rather host one here for little more than the cost of power if i could, than have people have to pay for one. if all else fails, i could just set it up and if it cant handle enough people then we take the next step.
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Post by braxo on Sept 21, 2006 6:55:45 GMT -5
If you have 100mbps upload speed then you're paying thousands of dollars a month for your internet, possibly more. T1 internet is only 1.5mbps upload speed. T3 is only 45mbps upload speed. How about you tell us what your internet speed really is? Because it's no 100mbps upload and I highly doubt it is 100mbps dowload either. Either way, the UPLOAD speed is what matters, not the DOWNLOAD. You can find out what your internets upload and download speeds are supposed to be by checking your internet bill or calling your internet service provider and asking them what your account is set to. According to the official website for Ventrilo at www.ventrilo.com/about.phpThe bandwidth usage is between 600bytes/sec and 8000bytes/sec depending on what quality you have it set to. "Standard broadband" is about 16 to 43 kilobytes per second upload speed depending on whether you have DLS or cable modem and also depending on which service plan you picked out.
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Post by Shalina on Sept 21, 2006 9:22:10 GMT -5
Hehe I have cable! WOOT
I just need to set up the server between my BF's comp and my new one so that I can access internet from it (probably in the next 3 days I'll have a router etc...)
Has anyone thought about using TeamSpeak instead of Ventrilo?
Advantages: It's free
Disadvantages: Someone has to have a pretty good computer (and his/her computer has to be open and the program running for us to use it)
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Post by molukai on Sept 21, 2006 14:26:02 GMT -5
^^ The same applies with ventrilo too~
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Post by merilyon on Sept 21, 2006 16:02:17 GMT -5
ok i'll check my bill, acctually i have a nifty tool on my router that tells me the current averaged transfer speeds for taken from the number of packets sent.
as to teamspeak, that usualy works, if you can get the dang surver to work, i used a walkthrough that a friend used to set up his, followed it to the letter and mine refused to except input. had other poeople have the same problem, probably had somthing to do whith internet provider or antivirus i expect.
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Post by braxo on Sept 21, 2006 19:15:20 GMT -5
Merilyon, go here www.dslreports.com/stestAnd test your internet speed. Make sure that nothing on your computer (or network) is using your upload bandwidth. Here is an example from as test I did. dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-09-21 20:14:38 EST: 3960 / 353 Your download speed : 3960 kbps or 495 KB/sec. That is 20.3% better than an average user on rr.com Your upload speed : 353 kbps or 44.1 KB/sec. That is 18% worse than an average user on rr.com
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Post by merilyon on Sept 21, 2006 21:43:29 GMT -5
I tested it, my results were horrendous, possebly its the fact that we have so many computers on the network, it was 358 / 104 Your download speed : 358 kbps or 44.8 KB/sec. That is 89.4% worse than an average user on charter.com
Your upload speed : 104 kbps or 13 KB/sec. That is 74.6% worse than an average user on charter.com
so i doubt that my hardware would be useable, nevertheless i'm still up for helping fund it.
kinda ticks me off to, i pay to much for this slow a speed, perhaps i have some malware on my pc, i'll have to check it out.
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Post by borham on Sept 26, 2006 15:32:34 GMT -5
As I found out today, Ventrilo limits the number of people that can connect to 8, unless you pay a monthly fee from one of their resellers. You cannot host more than 8 people on your own machine.
Teamspeak does not have this limitation, however.
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Post by merilyon on Oct 5, 2006 15:29:58 GMT -5
soo any news on the plan? I apparently cant host, my ISP is being a typical company and not doing anything about my upload/download rates, they say its 'User side' and they cant do anything about it, still willing to help pay for it though.
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